This is four minutes of straight FIRE:

 

never forget.

 

I've mentioned this before...

I believe Hunter felt his father was too corrupt to be president, so he purposefully didn't retrieve his laptop, allowing it to become the property of the repair shop, and subsequently its contents becoming public. Unfortunately, the deep state was able to deflect and bury the story. BUT THEN, Ashley Biden says "Hold my beer" and "loses" her diary which also became public and includes disturbing passages about her and her father.

Hunter writing a tell all book wouldn't surprise me.

 

This reads like an episode of The Sopranos.

There is no moral compass other than, "What can we get away with?"

 

Not the sopranos. Reality TV: Housewives of D.C.

Politics has become entertainment for the ignorant masses.

Meanwhile, they rob us blind.

 

 

I'm going to tell my kids this is a Christmas Carol:

 

You're onto something here. Most democrats or my "republican" friends tend to go straight to the slanderous stories about politicians on why they hate/oppose them rather on any real issue.

They repeat these ridiculous -- untrue -- talking points like they are hosting the View or Late Night. They have little idea what's really going on, or what anyone is really about.

I know so many republicans who voted for HILARY ******* CLINTON, cause Trump was mean -- despite being the ONLY republican who stood up on stage and outlined his platform/policy.
I know so many republicans who voted for SLEEPY JOE, cause Trump was an impeached, Russian dictator who pees on girls who is going to ban abortions -- despite living through a great economy and 4 years of peace and knowing Obama literally spied on Trump's campaign illegally and Obama/Biden used lawfare against him to undermine his presidency and campaign.
I know so many republicans who voted for KAMALA ******* HARRIS, cause Trump is a convicted felon & rapist who is going to use the DOJ against his enemies...

They get their news from tik-tok, love drama and craziness, and believe anything they hear so long as it's not the boring truth.

 

I'm not sure at this point if I even know where the leftist's actually stand in regard to the issues. What is their general belief?

Most of the conservative's that I know are consumed with maintaining our rights, reducing regulation and taxes.

 

unless they are a girl, then abortion > everything.

 

So, the only concerns that the lefty's had was based on the hyperbole pushed by the liberal media? I can believe that was a driver, but BS aside what are their value's? Do they actually think socialism and communism is the way? The American way?

I think this is the discussion that should be had so that both sides understand what the other is about. Living CA makes the results of the lefty legislation very obvious. Some of the results are a lower quality of life for the working class, a degradation of the constitution and reduced medical care for all.

 

Are you certain of that?

I mean, yes, that is ostensibly what the term "conservative" means in this context, but consider this:

Years ago, the word "Liberal" was understood to mean approximately what the word "Libertarian" does today. Classical Liberalism was concerned with individual liberty, freedom of speech and thought, the protection of private property rights, equality before the law, consent of the governed... Basically all of the stuff which The Founders wrote into the Bill of Rights.

In other words, these men were (mostly) all adherents of Classical Liberalism:



Today of course, in the US, the word "Liberal" mostly means "Democrat."

They do still adhere to some tenets of liberalism, but in a perverted way. Equality has given way to Equity, which in their philosophy means "unequal treatment in order to produce equal outcomes." And they are very serious about protecting the rights of individual women to have abortions, which is something that I actually happen to agree with, despite leaning mostly-conservative.



The term "Conservative," meanwhile, actually has little historical association with concepts like "small government" and "low taxes." Those were, as I have noted, mostly Liberal values.

Conservatism as a political ideology is more interested in maintaining continuity of traditional moral and social values. It's about preserving old institutions, old religions, and so on.

The early United States was highly anti-conservative. At the time of the American Revolution, we were fighting against the Monarchy, against the Church of England, and against the concept of Landed Nobility.

And Conservatism wasn't really even associated with the Republican Party until fairly recently.

Remember that Abraham Lincoln was only the second US President to run under the then-newly-created Republican party, and that administration concerned itself largely with the abolition of slavery, again tearing down an old, traditional socio-economic institution and replacing it with the very progressive new concept that blacks should be allowed property rights, voting rights, and otherwise treated as equal under the law to whites.

And those folks who were hell-bent on conserving the old social order of segregation all the way into the mid 20th century? Yeah, Democrats.



I've met a lot of people who talk about things like reduced size of government, lower taxes, and so on.

What one very rarely sees is a politician who actually delivered those things.

 

Ok, but things have changed. Especially in the past 16yrs.

I'm not sure if we have a republican party anymore. To me it seems that we have a moderate democrat party on the right and a socialist party on the left.

Who knows where the libertarian party is these days. Maybe small government and ultra lax on social issues?

 

From the horse's mouth...

 

No politician gets elected by saying "I'm going to take away services! I'm going to reduce Medicare (so it's solvent), I'm going to privatize Social Security!" Of course a small government and slashed bureaucracy and slashed taxes would drive economic growth world-wide, but the effect in the "cause-effect" must be instantaneous for your basic Leftist voter. "You get $400 and YOU get $400, and you get $400...!"

 

Trump was not convicted of rape. Trump wasn't even criminally charged with rape. He was taken to civil court roughly ten years after he was alleged to have groped a leftist operative. The allegations only arose after he became the president. There was no proof. There still is no corroborating evidence. It's likely all a sham. She was awarded tens of millions but it was reduced in appeal.

 

I believe NY changed the statute of limitations from 7 to 15yrs just so they could prosecute the former president/party nominee. NY hates the constitution, our democracy and even more the citizens of this country.

 

So Frances govt failed again. Let's see if le pen can hold onto power this time

 

No one is above the 🗽

 

If you're below the waves, you're below the law.

Hillary has her own set of rules too...if they find the cause of death is a suicide, it's fine.