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This is a "classical liberal" echo chamber. Liberals used to champion liberty, hence the name. Now, unfortunately, people who call themselves liberals are interested in controlling the lives and behavior of others rather than ensuring that others have opportunities to live their lives as they choose.
My sincere thanks and gratitude for recognizing this, and spelling it out in clear and simple terms.
I am as annoyed as you at the appropriation of the term "Liberal" by the present-day leftist / socialist political actors in most of the western nations of the world, including the US.
My sincere thanks and gratitude for recognizing this, and spelling it out in clear and simple terms.
I am as annoyed as you at the appropriation of the term "Liberal" by the present-day leftist / socialist political actors in most of the western nations of the world, including the US.
It's just a little bit of history repeating. Libs/Democrats are just going through the same downfall that Conservatives/Republicans went through in the late 80's early 90's. After years under Reagan, the bible thumpers and morally superior preaching gang were exposed as the hypocrites and self-righteous asses they were as people stopped bowing to them and started to push back. They simply wouldn't let people live their lives.
Well it turns out hubris is a learning disability.
The guilt by association fallacy is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an argument by associating it with a person or group that is considered negative. It's also known as the association fallacy.
Great hit piece news source.
I read articles form both sides of the table. it's very important to do so -- I suggest you do the same. There's a reason a butt-**** of people love Trump -- I suggest you try to understand that a little better. I totally understood the love for Obama, but I couldn't have hated a president more. Obama basically ignited race wars and division, then blamed it on Republicans. He used his charm and charisma to flat-out lie to the American public and drive us toward an unsustainable healthcare model.
Then his puppet let millions funnel through the borders, and offered non-citizens free Medicare. They contribute nothing to our society/taxes yet receive better benefits than you and me for free.
But if you read a summary of what I wrote then you would have heard this:
Braineack's message on MT.net, a miata forum that has become a central part of his hate speeches, marks another example of how the administrator has escalated his xenophobic and racist rhetoric against migrants and minority groups he says are genetically predisposed to commit crimes. The supposed threat migrants pose is the core part of the admin’s closing argument, as he promises his base that Trump is the one who can save the country from a group of people he calls “animals,” “stone cold killers,” the “worst people,” and the “enemy from within.”
Well call the parties what you want, because apparently the definitions of them have effectively changed/skewed (not disagreeing there). At this point everything seems to be so far left, or so far right that it feels hard to get a straight answer about the merits and downfalls of any legislation.
To be clear, I am not trying to be radical here and start the whole **** chant. Having said that, I just can't see an armed group sent by the government asking people to show their papers and sending them to a detention camp and not see some parallels. ETA - Obviously nothing that has happened so far has been anywhere close to the holocaust, I'm just saying I can't ignore the parallels.
I'm all for getting rid of criminals and other people who negatively impact our country. I'm sure we're not going to have exact numbers probably ever, but I was hanging out with some friends last night who are from a small farming town and apparently one of their high school friends who's "a good guy", and I believe some of his family were just picked up by ICE. I grew up next to a family who was here illegally and they were fantastic people. I couldn't even talk the majority of the people in that family and they were nothing but nice to me.
I also don't see a large scale deportation effecting agriculture (IE food prices) very well when ~40% of farmworkers are undocumented and unauthorized to be here.
Please hear me when I say that I believe that the majority of people in this country are good people who just want to live a decent life. I assume most people fall somewhere towards the center of the political spectrum, and the people on the extreme's are the loudest. I'm not trying to stir **** up here, I'm just writing this because I'm interested to hear the perspectives of others, and any counter points to what's going through my head.
I turned off notifications for this thread but if you want me to see something feel free to @ me. I'll probably check back on Monday either way.
@Braineack That post I made was stupid, and I'm not proud of it. I'll go back and delete that screenshot. Having said that, I think there are a lot of screenshots on here that are also pretty pointless.
I got sucked into all the BS that's flying around. I can't go anywhere on the internet and not have some politics mixed in. Even worse, as soon as anybody see's you engaged with a piece of political news, they just feed you more. I haven't paid much attention to politics in the past and I'm trying to be better than just reading headlines and getting outraged.
Personally, I'm somewhat nervous about what's going on right now and what the future is going to look like. I'm sure a lot of people felt the same way when Biden won in 2020, and would've been feeling the same way I am if Harris had won this election.
I can't go anywhere on the internet and not have some politics mixed in. Even worse, as soon as anybody see's you engaged with a piece of political news, they just feed you more.
And here you are engaging.
Then you lay out your rules of engagement as if anyone here will care? Cute.
I read your posts and couldn't find a point in any of it. Fewer words make for greater clarity.
I meant that with respect to algorithmic feeds. You watch one video on YouTube and all of a sudden a good number of the suggestions are political.
And fair point on the irony/contradiction there.
It's hard to get away from it. Remember this election is the most important election that you will ever vote in until the next most important election that you will ever vote in until the next most important election that you'll ever vote in...
A big problem is everyone has TDS and simply just can't stay out of it and push it into everywhere and on to everything.
You really just have to watch your sources. I went down a crazy spiral in 2020 after the election was stolen. I believed a lot of things people were saying is Gospel and I just sounded like a moron.
But I was right about almost every single thing I said about covid at least.
I love it when bloggers make large claims about significant events, and then cite no sources.
This is in your back yard Joe, right? You work for a media company where a paper airplane from your shop could probably land on the overly-expensive, broken library. I jest, but only a little.
I can only imagine that you could confirm--easier than anyone else--if what has been listed is real or fake news? MTurbo readers want to know.
This is really a horrible, sad look. Even with 450 hours of seat time in a Blackhawk, if you stop training for a while then you get rusty, quick. Apparently her social media was scrubbed before her name was released, which was the unspoken reason for the delay.
To be clear, I am not trying to be radical here and start the whole **** chant. Having said that, I just can't see an armed group sent by the government asking people to show their papers and sending them to a detention camp and not see some parallels. ETA - Obviously nothing that has happened so far has been anywhere close to the holocaust, I'm just saying I can't ignore the parallels.
New York state passed a law that they could send armed officials to check the vaccination papers of individuals and send them to detention camps just as you described above. Good thing the Supreme Court in 2022 judged that to be illegal and the law was removed.
I'm all for getting rid of criminals and other people who negatively impact our country.
If people are here illegally, by definition, that is a criminal act. Either the law was broken or it wasn't. It's pretty empirical. It doesn't ask to qualify if they are otherwise nice people or not. If I am broke and I shoplift baby formula for my destitute neighbor's child, it does not excuse the criminal act because I may be a good person doing otherwise benevolent things.
Please hear me when I say that I believe that the majority of people in this country are good people who just want to live a decent life. I assume most people fall somewhere towards the center of the political spectrum, and the people on the extreme's are the loudest. I'm not trying to stir **** up here, I'm just writing this because I'm interested to hear the perspectives of others, and any counter points to what's going through my head.
I agree that most people are generally good, decent, and do not wish I ill on others. It pains me greatly that on both sides there are those who seek to dehumanize their fellow Americans, rather than respect their differences of opinion. Dehumanization allows for brutal behavior if left unchecked. This was clearly demonstrated by both the ***** and Japanese. We must respect the lives of others.
When concrete fails, I always claim racism. It is never incompetence.
It is standard not to pay a contractor for work that does not pass inspection. His substandard business will go bankrupt and the bonding company will be forced to pay another contractor to redo the work.
To be clear, I am not trying to be radical here and start the whole **** chant. Having said that, I just can't see an armed group sent by the government asking people to show their papers and sending them to a detention camp and not see some parallels. ETA - Obviously nothing that has happened so far has been anywhere close to the holocaust, I'm just saying I can't ignore the parallels.
Yes, collecting individuals who broke the law by entering a country illegally and sending them back to country of origin is essentially the holocaust.
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