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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 02:32 PM
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Based on his posts in this thread, I don't doubt that for a second.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JD8
On a related note, uh oh... https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...-all-agencies/

Not that the members of this echo chamber will see a problem with the above, but this seems like pretty bad news for our democracy.

While I'm sometimes not a fan of their tone, I do have to side with the echo-chamber on this one.

Just as everyone who works for a corporation is ultimately accountable to the CEO, everyone who works for agencies within the Executive Branch of the US Government is ultimately accountable to the Chief Executive of that organization, which is the President.

While it may be a tad heavy-handed and micro-managey, we live in an age in which the US Government has become corrupt and bloated to a degree which may require such treatment to correct.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JD8
This is also pretty hilarious. https://trumpgolftrack.com/

I can't wait to hear the justification for your king's use of taxpayer money on this one.
With everything coming out about wasted tax dollars on DEI bullshit over the last 4 years, you choosing to complain about golfing is really telling of what issues you truly have with this administration.

Tell us, did it bother you when the previous administration tucked the president into bed at 8pm almost every night? Sure, Trump may be golfing more than his critics would like but at least he's putting in more full days than the last president, no? Did it not feel "wasteful" to you when Biden was only cognizant for ~6hrs of the work day?

You don't have to respond, we already know where you stand, and it isn't to pee.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
While I'm sometimes not a fan of their tone, I do have to side with the echo-chamber on this one.

Just as everyone who works for a corporation is ultimately accountable to the CEO, everyone who works for agencies within the Executive Branch of the US Government is ultimately accountable to the Chief Executive of that organization, which is the President.

While it may be a tad heavy-handed and micro-managey, we live in an age in which the US Government has become corrupt and bloated to a degree which may require such treatment to correct.
I agree with the US govt being in a bad state, that has been the case for a long time. Unfortunately, I don't think things are going to get better until money is taken out of politics. As we saw from the billionaires standing behind him at his inauguration, trump has no interest in taking money out of politics.

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With everything coming out about wasted tax dollars on DEI bullshit over the last 4 years, you choosing to complain about golfing is really telling of what issues you truly have with this administration.

Tell us, did it bother you when the previous administration tucked the president into bed at 8pm almost every night? Sure, Trump may be golfing more than his critics would like but at least he's putting in more full days than the last president, no? Did it not feel "wasteful" to you when Biden was only cognizant for ~6hrs of the work day?

You don't have to respond, we already know where you stand, and it isn't to pee.
Please show me in any post I have ever made where I commended Biden on anything...

You are just making **** up and relying on your echo chamber to back you up. Like I already asked @Braineack (who didn't answer), how do you justify Trump spending millions of taxpayer money on golfing while you go on and on about how he is saving so much taxpayer money? Why has being a hypocrite become the cornerstone of the GOP?
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 03:01 PM
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Let's see if we can find common ground. Let me know if you agree with any of the following statements...

1. I think that any public official who's net worth increases far faster than what their salary would realistically allow should be investigated. Along these same lines, politicians should be barred from trading individual stocks.

2. Money and politics should be separated. The Citizens United decision should be overturned.

3. Miatas are lightweight and fun to drive.


Old Feb 20, 2025 | 03:20 PM
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About that EO -

According to the Constitution-

Article II
Section 1

“The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

The EO states -
“Therefore, in order to improve the administration of the executive branch and to increase regulatory officials’ accountability to the American people, it shall be the policy of the executive branch to ensure Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch.”

Sounds strangely like asserting that the President will be in charge of the agencies of the Executive Branch. Shocking! - unless your job dealt you the misfortune of dealing with any of those agencies.

Old Feb 20, 2025 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JD8
Please show me in any post I have ever made where I commended Biden on anything...
Fair enough, I'll give you that.

It's just astonishing how many people come out of nowhere complaining about the current administration's dealings with just about anything who didn't utter a peep during the Obama/Biden years is all. It's almost like selective outrage is a real thing and it may be in the room with us right this second... Like the issues aren't the driving force behind the complaining/questioning but the individual in charge is?

What do I know though? I'm just one of those weirdo coincidence theorists.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Fair enough, I'll give you that.

It's just astonishing how many people come out of nowhere complaining about the current administration's dealings with just about anything who didn't utter a peep during the Obama/Biden years is all. It's almost like selective outrage is a real thing and it may be in the room with us right this second... Like the issues aren't the driving force behind the complaining/questioning but the individual in charge is?

What do I know though? I'm just one of those weirdo coincidence theorists.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have been uttering the same peeps for years now --> Until money is removed from politics, we are all in for a bad time. But of course no lawmakers (liberal or republican) want that to happen because then where will they enrich themselves?
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I have been uttering the same peeps for years now --> Until money is removed from politics, we are all in for a bad time. But of course no lawmakers (liberal or republican) want that to happen because then where will they enrich themselves?
Then you should be a huge fan of Doge.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez



Below Central Park & South what?
I just meant everything south of 60th.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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What do I know though? I'm just one of those weirdo coincidence theorists.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why do all biden's pardons start at 2014?
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JD8
I have been uttering the same peeps for years now --> Until money is removed from politics, we are all in for a bad time. But of course no lawmakers (liberal or republican) want that to happen because then where will they enrich themselves?
Your posts are so much better when you remove the sarcasm and accusations. Not that you give one **** about my approval. I'm just saying it's far more digestible this way.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:19 PM
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Then you should be a huge fan of Doge.
Some of it seems good. But most of it seems like Elon spouting nonsense that gets debunked within minutes. I guess that explains why you are such a fan.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormu...-at-8-billion/
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Slayer
Your posts are so much better when you remove the sarcasm and accusations. Not that you give one **** about my approval. I'm just saying it's far more digestible this way.
I will try to do better. It is hard to stay serious after seeing brain's posts. Sometimes I have too much fun instigating.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:27 PM
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Suddenly a liberal cares about government waste...
And suddenly you don't?

FWIW I think that cutting government waste is a good idea, although I don't agree with the way they are going about it.
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That doesn't usually fair well for members
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I used to watch this guy to learn about personal finance. I thought this video was pretty interesting (and pretty non-partisan).

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And suddenly you don't?

FWIW I think that cutting government waste is a good idea, although I don't agree with the way they are going about it.
What exactly do propose a president do when he wants to have some leisure time? What other president has declined a paycheck? What other president in recent history has lost money after becoming president? What other president has found waste and fraud in the government and suggested we paid directly back to the citizens?

I didnt biden take his fair share a vacations, yet I don't think I remember seeing any posts about that. Biden also was sending billions of dollars in a packages to Ukraine during three huge disasters in the United States while offering US citizens a $700 loan. I remember complaining about that but I didn't see anything from the TDS crew. I consistently complain about govt waste and fraud.

Do you think we should be focusing on the trivial amount of money this cost? Or do you think we should continue this red herring and pretend like no other waste and fraud in the billions and trillions exists...



There are costs associated with having a President. Should we raise the debt ceiling and then funnel more money to forgien countries and NGOs run by lawmakers and pretend to pay for it? Par for the course - pun intended - is always a great solution always coming from the left.

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I'm guessing you don't have much problem with him helping to get rid of the congestion tax, but with him referring to himself as king?
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Correct, I was solely commenting on the king remark. I've never heard of a congestion tax until yesterday. Traffic isn't bad enough here (yet) to need something like that or toll roads.
Seems like a simple enough concept, ease traffic by charging a fee to reduce the number of cars on the road. And, just thinking through it with next to no research, it does seem like it would be a poor tax since the rich will just pay the tax and not think twice. I would assume there's a bit more to it than that, but again, it's never been something I've looked into or been exposed to.

Yeah, I don't like our president referring to himself as a king, do you? I think the White House tweeting a photo like this is in poor taste. Sure, maybe it's just a joke to get a rise out of people, but I am curious how much of a joke its going to be in the future. My $0.02
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Yeah, I don't like our president referring to himself as a king, do you? I think the White House tweeting a photo like this is in poor taste. Sure, maybe it's just a joke to get a rise out of people, but I am curious how much of a joke its going to be in the future. My $0.02
Everyone else calls him a dictator for the last 8 years. So he can't have fun with it now?

Maybe he got the exact reaction he was looking for?

Had governor tredeau actually resigned yet?



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