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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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Really interesting eight minutes about measles, and what really happened with the "Disneyland outbreak."
Old Mar 9, 2025 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Now do minimum wage.

Here's a great homework assignment for the group: Tell me what percent of the workforce makes at or below min wage.
Even better, tell me what percentage of those with minimum wage jobs actually contribute to the federal gov't.
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 05:47 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 05:47 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
With birth control pills and other contraceptives being completely free*, I can only conclude that abortion is a political red-herring. It seems to be a cultivated issue used to distract from real issues rather than one of organic importance.

*See also: my tax dollars
Like other contraceptives, birth control pills only work if you think ahead and take them.

Planning ahead, and thinking about the future consequences of actions in the present, are difficult concepts for certain people to master.

I see nothing more nefarious here than good ole' fashioned lack of personal responsibility, coupled with a political system dedicated to promoting itself as the universal guardian and caretaker.


Old Mar 9, 2025 | 11:08 PM
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Is this true but unreported? If so, it kinda seems like we're following another media narrative. Anyone take the bait?

And WTF....bird flu from a lab?!

Old Mar 10, 2025 | 02:49 AM
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Funny as hell viral JD Vance ai composite video....tons of them.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
With birth control pills and other contraceptives being completely free*, I can only conclude that abortion is a political red-herring. It seems to be a cultivated issue used to distract from real issues rather than one of organic importance.
There are multiple ways to ensure you don't accidentally create a human you don't want the burden of raising with one even having a 100% success rate. The problem is, the sexual revolution and degradation of societal values mean that one has gone by the wayside and the powers that be have done an excellent job of turning the issue of abortion into "THESE RELIGIOUS BIGOTS AND OLD WHITE PEOPLE WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH YOUR BODY" that people are happy to look past the morality issue involved and push back simply to "stick it to the man".

This extends past the abortion issue but the fact of the matter is that human life isn't as valued as it was decades ago, regardless of the form/age.
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ill do everyone's homework assignment for them:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/min...eral%20minimum.

In 2023, 80.5 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 55.7 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 81,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 789,000 workers had wages below the federal minimum. The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less edged down from 1.3 percent in 2022 to 1.1 percent in 2023. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979, when data were first collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)
So of the amount of hourly employees in the workforce in 2023, min wage employees account for 1.1% of that. Roughly 870,000 workers.

If 80.5 million workers, represents only 55.7% of the workforce, then the entire workforce is 144.6 million workers.

So therefore, one of the Democrats only main platform issue other than abortion and Trump is Orange, only affects 0.76% of the entire workforce. It's literally a non-issues that only really affects 16-25yos who work in the service industry. The try to paint it as a "living wage" issue, pull on heart strings and make anyone opposed to it out to be evil (typical MO of the left). Min Wage should be abolished if anything. It's absolutely unnecessary at a federal or state level. The left love their political red-herrings; useful idiots are great.



Originally Posted by rleete
Even better, tell me what percentage of those with minimum wage jobs actually contribute to the federal gov't.
dunno.

Wage and salary workers are people age 16 and older who receive wages, salaries, commissions, tips, payments in kind, or piece rates on their sole or principal job. This group includes employees in both the private and public sectors. All self-employed workers are excluded, regardless of whether their businesses are incorporated.

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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
... So therefore, one of the Democrats only main platform issue other than abortion and Trump is Orange, only affects 0.76% of the entire workforce. It's literally a non-issues that only really affects 16-25yos who work in the service industry. The try to paint it as a "living wage" issue, pull on heart strings and make anyone opposed to it out to be evil (typical MO of the left). Min Wage should be abolished if anything. It's absolutely unnecessary at a federal or state level. The left love their political red-herrings; useful idiots are great.
Not quite true.

Many companies, AND the government, base their wages on the federal minimum wage. They don't PAY minimum wage, but may, for example, pay the minimum wage during training, then, minimum wage plus X dollars during a probationary period, then, etc..
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oh okay, so we can add 0.00000000001% of the workforce.
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Originally Posted by poormxdad
Not quite true.

Many companies, AND the government, base their wages on the federal minimum wage. They don't PAY minimum wage, but may, for example, pay the minimum wage during training, then, minimum wage plus X dollars during a probationary period, then, etc..
Gemini seems to think differently:

No, federal employees during their probationary period are not paid minimum wage; they are paid according to the established pay grade for their position, which is typically higher than the minimum wage, as most federal jobs are classified positions with set salary ranges.


https://www.newsweek.com/probationar...e-cuts-2032695

What is a Probationary Employee, Anyway?

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The data did not have information on salaries and schedules. Pay is often determined by the department, and sometimes it is at a slight decrease to a tenured employee's salary. According to the data, federal worker salaries range from less than $50,000 (8.1 percent of the people) to over $200,000 (3.1 percent of the people).


from googling around, I dont see anything that supports your claim. Even when a fed is placed on leave, they are still paid their same rate. Why would someone accepting a new position as a fed work for min wage? Where did you come up with such an idea?
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Sorry I wasn't more clear, but I did use the words "base", "may", and "for example". For example, I believe Dominion Power in Virginia "bases" their pay scale on the minimum wage, but it's been a while since I took those classes.

I am sure there are people working in government buildings whose pay is based on the minimum wage. They aren't making policy, or advising politicians, but may be working in cafeterias or mail rooms, etc. When Barack the O'Bomber was politicking for an increased minimum wage, he wasn't doing it for the kids. He was doing it for government employees.

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Dude, stop lying. I fixed your lies:

Originally Posted by Braineack
So of the amount of hourlyemployees in the workforce in 2023, min wage employees account for 1.1% of that. Roughly 870,000 workers. WRONG 1.1% of 80.5million is 885500 workers.

If 80.5 million workers, represents only 55.7% of the workforce, then the entire workforce is 144.6 million workers. WRONG 80.5 million is 55.7% of 144.5 million.

So therefore, one of the Democrats only main platform issue other than abortion and Trump is Orange, only affects 0.76% of the entire workforce. WRONG 885500 is 0.61% of 144.524237million *words* dunno. EXACTLY
Typical government worker.
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Sometimes the fights on miataturbo be like...
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
Typical government worker.

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Originally Posted by poormxdad
Sorry I wasn't more clear, but I did use the words "base", "may", and "for example". For example, I believe Dominion Power in Virginia "bases" their pay scale on the minimum wage, but it's been a while since I took those classes.
But VA min wage is much higher than federal min wage... actually only 3 states have min wage rates lower than fed, again, making fed min wage m00t at best.
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I yield.

My knowledge is dated. The point back in the day was companies that tied their pay scales to the min wage didn't have to work cost-of-living type raises for their employees. They were automatic when the min wage increased.



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