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Old 06-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #761
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You would think people would applaud them for using the lowest common denominator to market their kit so that you could be sure they were not trying to overinflate the numbers. Most companies optimize everything and publish those numbers and then everyone complains that it is a misrepresentation of what just that kit will give you.
From what I gather from occassional FT86club scanning, Innovate had a non-disclosure agreement with their US or North American testers. That's right, they had several shops, running cars in several configurations (including a heavily road-course'd car), beta testing the superchargers (rather than having the first wave of early adopters doing it). During that time frame, no hard data was released.

That drove people insane.


I look forward to hearing more about the kit, but I am thinking that would be a perfect compliment to a daily driver that sees some occassional track time - if the cooling can be kept in check. Apparently, the cars run pretty hot oil temps from the factory.

The primary downside for me would be easily voiding the factory warranty. A major point of buying a new car like that - for me - would be the warranty, especially in light of the possible direct injector seal issues, factory tune producing knock, etc.

I would pay a premium for that same kit with a TRD badge that maintained the warranty.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #762
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True, but if the kit comes out in a couple hours (and looks from pictures like that's a realistic time frame, there's like 5 parts total to it) then its not too bad to swap back if something serious needs to be done by the dealer.
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Previous TTD lap record at Gingerman was a 1:48.9 according to the guy who set the new record.

1:45.6 in an FR-S.

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Mods to the car are fairly basic:
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17x9 +42 with 225 Hoosier A6s
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one of these tried to keep up with my rex, i loled. luckily we didnt have to corner.
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I'll just leave this here...

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Old 07-04-2013, 08:13 PM   #767
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Damnit, Jeff. What am I looking at?

I see what looks like a modified front fascia, remote reservoir dampers, and forced induction. And some Toyota techs with minds blown.
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Damnit, Jeff. What am I looking at?

I see what looks like a modified front fascia, remote reservoir dampers, and forced induction. And some Toyota techs with minds blown.
GT86 rally car built by my friends at Nameless Performance. EFR7062. Remote reservoir dampers, all the goodies you'd expect in a car built for stage rally. Sounds like the ******* devil. There will be a feature on Top Gear USA sometime in the near future.

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Before realizing they'd have time to add an intercooler:


Quick-change differential cage





Also: The guys in the picture aren't bewildered toyota techs. They built it
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Video of the car running
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ooooo it has a speedway mini stock quick change diff.
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that's awesome.....just awesome
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GT86 rally car built by my friends at Nameless Performance. EFR7062. Remote reservoir dampers, all the goodies you'd expect in a car built for stage rally. Sounds like the ******* devil. There will be a feature on Top Gear USA sometime in the near future.
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Also: The guys in the picture aren't bewildered toyota techs. They built it
Wicked. I'm familiar with the shop name from lurking the FT86forum.

As for the shirts, they look like Toyota factory mechanic shirts from the early to mid 2000s.
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one of these tried to keep up with my rex, i loled. luckily we didnt have to corner.
Had that happen in my FXT too heh.
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Previous TTD lap record at Gingerman was a 1:48.9 according to the guy who set the new record.

1:45.6 in an FR-S.



Gingerman NASA TTD Track Record - Scion FR-S 1:45.578 - YouTube

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I rode in that car at Mid Ohio last month. Austin is an instructor with AutoInterests with me, and a pretty quick driver. Glad he got a record in that thing!
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I rode in that car at Mid Ohio last month. Austin is an instructor with AutoInterests with me, and a pretty quick driver. Glad he got a record in that thing!
It definitely seems like the cars have a lot of potential in the hands of a quick driver. As far as I know, Jon Miller has put his TT action on the back burner and is running the Pirelli World Challenge with Shea Racing, so I am glad to see someone else picking up the proverbial baton.

Knocking multiple seconds off a lap record in a barely prepped car is pretty impressive.
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It definitely seems like the cars have a lot of potential in the hands of a quick driver. As far as I know, Jon Miller has put his TT action on the back burner and is running the Pirelli World Challenge with Shea Racing, so I am glad to see someone else picking up the proverbial baton.

Knocking multiple seconds off a lap record in a barely prepped car is pretty impressive.
Its putting the bait out there pretty hard for NASA to add an * or two to the base class in my mind.
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NASA results for that weekend indicate the SM lap record was set at a 1:49.172.

So Austin was almost 3.5 seconds under the SM lap record on the same weekend. The car is almost full weight, still has all the power features and creature comforts.

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Its putting the bait out there pretty hard for NASA to add an * or two to the base class in my mind.
See Jon Miller, Emilio, and Efini's discussion up above.
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I test drove a BRZ with an AVO turbo.
I adored the steering.
Interior and seats were surpisingly nice.
But was underwhelmed by the turbo.

AVO claim the stock motor can only go to 8 psi and be dead reliable.

And then they choose some crappy Mitsu turbo that is "good for 380 whp" and only makes 5 psi by 3500 RPM. WTF? It's like the stupid MSM turbo. (See below) Why not choose a turbo that's good for 10 psi, and makes 8 psi by 3000 RPM? My 2560 makes 15 psi at the top and 8 psi by 2650 RPM. Sheesh.

My conclusion is the car needs at least 220 tq and 250 hp to be truly fun.


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I test drove a BRZ with an AVO turbo.

AVO claim the stock motor can only go to 8 psi and be dead reliable.

And then they choose some crappy Mitsu turbo that is "good for 380 whp" and only makes 5 psi by 3500 RPM. WTF? It's like the stupid MSM turbo. (See below) Why not choose a turbo that's good for 10 psi, and makes 8 psi by 3000 RPM? My 2560 makes 15 psi at the top and 8 psi by 2650 RPM. Sheesh.
Jason, I could not agree with you more. Basically been saying this for ever, even earlier in this very thread. Something like a 2560 would probably be at full tilt by 3k on this thing and 250/250 would be glorious.
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AVO claim the stock motor can only go to 8 psi and be dead reliable.
On which turbo? What goes first? Pistons? Rings? Rods? Crank?
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