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Old 11-28-2012, 07:01 PM
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And its still slower than a basic turbo miata.

How are you defining a basic turbo Miata and how are you determining that it's slower? I would think 230 WHP and 200 ft-lbs is pretty on-par for a basic turbo Miata. Granted, it's about 300-400 lbs heavier than an NA8 Miata so that will have some effect.

Then again, it might also have a superior chassis that allows it to turn quicker lap times at comparable power levels despite the heavier weight.
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It can also fit much beefier tires underneath it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:27 PM
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It can also fit much beefier tires underneath it.
LB/mm?
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:19 PM
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no opensource yet

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Old 11-28-2012, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack View Post
How are you defining a basic turbo Miata and how are you determining that it's slower? I would think 230 WHP and 200 ft-lbs is pretty on-par for a basic turbo Miata. Granted, it's about 300-400 lbs heavier than an NA8 Miata so that will have some effect.

Then again, it might also have a superior chassis that allows it to turn quicker lap times at comparable power levels despite the heavier weight.
Eh, i'd say my cars a basic turbo miata. Just any well built basic turbo miata. I mean stock motor, megasquirt or equivalent, small/medium turbo, other supporting mods.

I'm making 240whp/220ftlbs at around 2300lbs. Nothing exotic. And that's with my dying 1.6.

As for lap times, I almost guarantee it would beat out most "basic" turbo miatas. It's definitely a superior chassis. Like I said, i understand this cars potential and I'm not really talking ****. More just pointing it out.
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This car is out for not even a year and there's already like 5 turbo kits and 2 supercharger kits as well as other stuff.

Our cars have been out for like 20 years and people are just now making decent power and having nice setups for a decent price.

AT this rate the brz/frs is going to **** on our graves in 10 years.
Look at the NC miata: ******* PATHETIC. 2 turbo kits or something gay like that, and one of them is designed by downs survivors. I'm sorry but in a few years this car is going to kick ***......or maybe something will happen and it will fail. But how its lookin now, I'm going to say its going to be a huge success

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Point taken, vlad. I'd love to have a BRZ, but at the price its just not in the cards for me anytime soon. I've got my sights set on a FD or a s2000 down the road, but until I can comfortably afford to modify one I'm sticking with the miata as my toy.
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Truth:

I would buy one ten or fifteen years from now if it were a ragtop.

But it's a hardtop.

Am I seriously the only one for whom this is an absolute deal-killer?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
Truth:

I would buy one ten or fifteen years from now if it were a ragtop.

But it's a hardtop.

Am I seriously the only one for whom this is an absolute deal-killer?
Pretty sure you're not, but I am EXACTLY the opposite.

I would shell out 5 grand extra for my miata TODAY if it was a coupe.

Serious
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Originally Posted by Fireindc View Post
I've got my sights set on a FD or a s2000 down the road, but until I can comfortably afford to modify one I'm sticking with the miata as my toy.
Buy an FD3S and watch the BRZ turn in to a bargain.

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Am I seriously the only one for whom this is an absolute deal-killer?
I am with Vlad. Much like I bought my old Corvette despite it being a Chevy, I bought the Miata despite it being a convertible. I would have preferred a coupe without a doubt.
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I bought my miata despite it being a convertible. Having never owned one and only hearing bad things about them from everyone other than chicks I was pre-prejudiced. However, now that I have had a convertible I love it and will probably continue to own one as long as I live in an area like I do now where I can have to top down 95% of the time.

The fun factor of my miata is atleast doubled with the top down.
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I think I drove with the top down (when I had a soft top that is) ONCE.

LOL

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I love driving with the windows down, but not the top. Weird.
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I hate top down. I always get burnt on my blad spot. and I look stupid i hats.
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Same here. Maybe 10 times top down in 8 years of ownership. Finally got a hardtop and already looking forward to removing the soft top.
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Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
I always get burnt on my blad spot. and I look stupid i hats.
I can relate to this.



I will say that I enjoyed the targa on my C5 and I did do a lot of top-down driving in my S2000 when the weather warranted. However, when it was too hot, was raining, my wife didn't want to mess her hair up, I wanted to be able to have a conversation at speed, etc - top up driving was a significant compromise.
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I pulled the soft top and frame, bought a HT and haven't missed a thing.
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Originally Posted by 18psi, Scrappy Jack, Braineack, Reverant and rleete
We all hate the outdoors in general, and convertibles specifically.
Wow.

I put the soft top up this morning *after* I arrived at work, because it was raining. First time in at least a month. It can be 50°F outside and I will have the top down along with a jacket and gloves, with the heater keeping my feet nice and warm.

Also, Braineack, wear a damn hat. Hell, I wear one, and I have hair. It is made of an attractive dark cloth and has the logo of a local microbrewery stitched into it.

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I have a mazdaspeed hat:

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Well I know for me it comes down to practicality. My wife and I are planning on having kids in a few years, so daily driving the Miata isn't really going to work out well. I may keep it for a track car, but that will depend on funding. More than likely I'll get a FRS/BRZ and sell the Miata to pay for some mods.
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I too have the softtop removed and run a hardtop 99% of the time. I MUST say though, the very few times I have run topless for canyon cruising i have LOVED it.
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