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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jacob300zx
Joe, just take the top hat off old shocks, transfer to new. The racelands come with new bumpstops.
Yeah, I got it. Was just trying to understand whether there'd be a difference between the NA and NB packages insofar as total compression travel is concerned. Probably worth it to do an NB tophat conversion, if the NA version re-uses the OEM NA mounts.
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I just boughtz minez yo!!!! Onto springs now
Old Mar 19, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buffon01
I just boughtz minez yo!!!! Onto springs now
Hey hang on a sec there Buffo, is having some issues with what appear to be 250 lb 7" sprangs, you might want to wait till he responds to the other thread to make sure that there is enough travel in 250lb 7" springs without coil bind.

Got my ricelands on the way, but I'm going to wait on springs for a little bit.
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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If he uses the stock NA tophats he should be fine with them. When I went to ISC racing tophats, I removed a good .75" of spring height, this was one of the major contributing causes to my issue. I had no issues with 7" 300lb rear springs on NA hats, on paper, the difference in the compressed spring height between 300 and 250lbs springs on the rear should be less than .5", swapping the tophats is what ultimately did me in. When you remove the .75" off the tophat, you lower the body by about one inch alone. So I have the jack the spring higher to raise the body, but to prevent bind I need to actually lower the spring...

I also keep a good 75lbs. of **** in my trunk, no joke.

In fact, he can buy my 250# 7" qa1s for $55 shipped and try it himself.
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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I'll try your springs if anything they'll be in the FS section soon
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by buffon01
I'll try your springs if anything they'll be in the FS section soon
Lettuce know how they work, that's the setup I'm looking at too.
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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So I'm gonnabe the guinea pig? I'm having second thoughts about the qa1s both gospeed and brain didn't like them .....
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buffon01
So I'm gonnabe the guinea pig? I'm having second thoughts about the qa1s both gospeed and brain didn't like them .....
Actually I really liked them, I didn't want to send them to Scott, but we had made arrangements.

I'm going to throw this out there without too much to back it up, but I'm having the same problems as Brainfuck, but with standard Tein springs.

The one thing we both have in common is we both just installed ISC tophats with setups or spring rates people usually don't combine them with.

Spring settling is a different issue though, and springs are designed to never hit their fatigue range, unless poorly designed/manufactured.
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Hell, I'll take 's 250s for $55 shipped if you pussies don't want 'em.
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Hell, I'll take 's 250s for $55 shipped if you pussies don't want 'em.
Hey, I want second dibs. Do you even have ricelands? :-P
Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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I'll try the springs out I just not fond of the idea that I'll be the first but anyway is only 55 bucks and I'll be receiving a juicy check from insurance company that will fund my entire project and repairs
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Somebody want my 7" 250lbs Eibachs?


It appears that Joe Perez has expressed interest. Unless something changes, consider them gone.

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oilstain
Hey, I want second dibs. Do you even have ricelands? :-P
Not on the '92.

Originally Posted by alik
It appears that Joe Perez has expressed interest. Unless something changes, consider them gone.
Waiting for the pictures. They come in, they look good, money will be sent.
Old Mar 22, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Mines shipped today. Brain your money has been sent, put my **** on the mail.
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thrusday afternoon. unless you wanna fly to Dulles and pull them off the car...it's in the daily lot.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
thrusday afternoon. unless you wanna fly to Dulles and pull them off the car...it's in the daily lot.
BRT! Woo hoo free truboz!

Edit, not free, I'd still have to pay for one day of parking I suppose.
Old Mar 22, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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I can get the turbo off in 15 minutes...i think you'd be within the grace period...
Old Mar 22, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I can get the turbo off in 15 minutes...i think you'd be within the grace period...
Thanks, just leave it in the passenger seat then. I'll actually be in McLean tomorrow for some training :-)
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So I've been rocking these for a while just fine but recently I added a roll bar with door bars and I'm having a slight issue. If I go into a driveway at a steep angle, one of the rear tires picks up off the floor and then my car has trouble going up since I have an open diff. Would putting the helper springs back in help solve this issue or do I just need more travel so that the wheel will still make contact with the floor?

It makes contact and it bucks the car a little. Feels kind of like wheel hop but I can usually put it in reverse and wiggle the steering wheel a little and it'll roll back and I can try again. My car isn't super low anymore, I can clear speed bumps just fine. I got 1 finger wheel gap on the front on a 16x8 wrapped in a 205/40 and 2 fingers wheel gap on the rear, same rim/tire.
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Originally Posted by bluemonkey
up off the floor
Wut.

Are you saying that your tire lifts and there isn't enough travel in the suspension to keep you on the ground over a large bump because your car is stiffer? Just what grade is this driveway?



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