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Old May 3, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Holy ******* ShitBalls my car is fast when you start out in second gear. I am also over boosting like a ************ in lower gears. I hit 180-190kpa in 5th and 6th, but over boost to 215kpa in 3rd. I get 180kpa around 3600rpms with VVT disabled.

Old May 3, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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is your WG signal big enough?
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Also, with VVT not working... is it possible the engine is huffing and moving more air than it is making power so it causes you to overboost?
Old May 3, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by shlammed
is your WG signal big enough?
My wastegate signal is 9/32 I believe. I currently just have it going to a bottom port and have the upper port unplugged according to the Tial directions.

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Also, with VVT not working... is it possible the engine is huffing and moving more air than it is making power so it causes you to overboost?
Could be, I am not sure. I will hopefully be enabling VVT soon. I also want to get my EBC setup and see if that helps control over boost.

I also need to play with VSS some more. It did not seem to be working.
Old May 3, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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I am pretty sure Hustler had overshoot boost issues when running ghetto/single port wastegate stylie.
Old May 3, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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How long is your line from wg signal soruce to wg port?

Are you just on spring pressure now?
Old May 3, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora

How long is your line from wg signal soruce to wg port?

Are you just on spring pressure now?
Line is probably less then a foot long. I am just on waste gate springs and I believe the ones I have in there should be about 10psi.

I am not overly concerned about the over boost right now, mostly because I am just enjoying the car and I know it can handle it fine.
Old May 3, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shuiend
On a different note. I took a video of my Tial BOV in action. The stopper thing seems to close sort of slow. Does it look normal to all the guys who have a tial BOV?
Mine is the same way.
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shiend.... try adding the nipple for the top port to another bottom port with the top unloaded... so 2 lines to the bottom and none to the top.

see if that helps....

i never had overshoot problems with my MS-V
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I will give that a try tonight possibly.
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***** weak...
Old May 3, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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***** weak...
Are you saying when you get back to the US you will do better?
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I lied about topping out at 180kpaish in 5th gear. I definitely hit 210kpa if I hold it to redline. I get 180kpa by 3600rpm always, then at 5200rpm I am at about 200kpa.

I think I am going to try some different springs tomorrow and see what happens.
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You can run a 8psi spring and use EBC with both ports to bring it up to where you want it.

12psi (180kpa) by 3600 with your larger-than-typical 56trim 2871 & .86a/r is pretty good.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
You can run a 8psi spring and use EBC with both ports to bring it up to where you want it.

12psi (180kpa) by 3600 with your larger-than-typical 56trim 2871 & .86a/r is pretty good.
Setting up the EBC and using both ports has always been the plan. It is just a little further down the road once I get done just enjoying the setup.

I am actually very happy with the spool how it is so far. I also know when I enable VVT that it should spool even quicker then.
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Hmm I am actually seeing better spool than that.

If you are running really conservative timing though, that would explain why. I messed around with reducing timing to get better spool and I failed.

Also in my WG spring swappage experience, I hit 9, 15, 17, and 20psi all at about the same RPM. The spring doesn't snap open; it gradually opens up.

That **** was all kind of irrelevant but I came here just now looking for spool data...
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Hmm I am actually seeing better spool than that.

If you are running really conservative timing though, that would explain why. I messed around with reducing timing to get better spool and I failed.

Also in my WG spring swappage experience, I hit 9, 15, 17, and 20psi all at about the same RPM. The spring doesn't snap open; it gradually opens up.

That **** was all kind of irrelevant but I came here just now looking for spool data...
You have VVT enabled right? And you have also tuned your built motor somewhat. I am still running the spark table that I made for ms1 on my old 2554 setup. So there is still a lot that I can probably do to to help with spool.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
You have VVT enabled right? And you have also tuned your built motor somewhat. I am still running the spark table that I made for ms1 on my old 2554 setup. So there is still a lot that I can probably do to to help with spool.
Indeedyo VVT is doing it's thing. I expect post tune your setup's spool will stomp mine.
Old May 23, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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I have been daily driving the car for the past 2 weeks. It has been going strong with no major issues. I have decided that I hate TurboTim though. I have not gotten better then 20mpg since installing the the new setup. I tend to boost to much.

With VVT and EBC hooked up I can hit 225kpa at about 3750rpms.

I also built myself a new heat shield. There is a good reason that I pay people to fabricate things for me instead of doing it myself. **** I make looks like ****.
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Damn!

Maybe you should take some construction paper and your Winnie the Pooh safety scissors and practice a little first...



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