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It says in the article that there is a class action lawsuit being contemplated, which I think is a perfect way to solve the problem. If you poke them in the money hole, they are most likely to respond. And if it is a sizable enough judgment it will dissuade others from operating in a similarly illegal fashion.
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It says in the article that there is a class action lawsuit being contemplated, which I think is a perfect way to solve the problem. If you poke them in the money hole, they are most likely to respond. And if it is a sizable enough judgment it will dissuade others from operating in a similarly illegal fashion.
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When my son was looking at colleges, Harvard actively tried to recruit him. He expressed absolutely no interest in going to anything but an engineering school. The more he declined, the more Harvard offered in terms of tuition, favored housing, etc. Financially, it would have been much better for me, but I am glad he stuck to his guns.
His resume was very similar to the guy sixshooter posted above (with an even higher SAT score), minus the political stuff. I'm pretty sure that's what sank that guy.
His resume was very similar to the guy sixshooter posted above (with an even higher SAT score), minus the political stuff. I'm pretty sure that's what sank that guy.
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Could it be that you have limited experience with Tesla and Apple? I was not sure about Tesla cars until I did a few 30min test drives. The model 3 performance is quite impressive. Especially when you factor in the cost. Apple and Tesla are both American companies that are huge global successes.
Could it be that you have limited experience with Tesla and Apple? I was not sure about Tesla cars until I did a few 30min test drives. The model 3 performance is quite impressive. Especially when you factor in the cost. Apple and Tesla are both American companies that are huge global successes.
They are absolutely smitten, but the closest thing to a “good” car they ever owned was a 2002 Golf. By comparison, the Tesla is like something out of science fiction.
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When my son was looking at colleges, Harvard actively tried to recruit him. He expressed absolutely no interest in going to anything but an engineering school. The more he declined, the more Harvard offered in terms of tuition, favored housing, etc. Financially, it would have been much better for me, but I am glad he stuck to his guns.
His resume was very similar to the guy sixshooter posted above (with an even higher SAT score), minus the political stuff. I'm pretty sure that's what sank that guy.
His resume was very similar to the guy sixshooter posted above (with an even higher SAT score), minus the political stuff. I'm pretty sure that's what sank that guy.
did he check his privilege?
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Could it be that you have limited experience with Tesla and Apple? I was not sure about Tesla cars until I did a few 30min test drives. The model 3 performance is quite impressive. Especially when you factor in the cost. Apple and Tesla are both American companies that are huge global successes.
I am not critiquing the build quality or performance of either Tesla vehicles or Apple products.
I am simply observing that, for a great many of their customers, the purchasing decision seems to be informed more by an intangible sense of "Brand X is Good," which is to no small degree informed both by the aesthetic and visceral experience of the brand (Apple stores and products are sleek and white, Tesla stores and products are refined and futuristic) as well as the sociopolitical connotations which are associated with their ownership (people who own iThings and Tesla products are hip and "in.")
This, in my view of things, explains why the left has so easily pivoted against Tesla in recent weeks. Because to them, the value of the object is not intrinsic to the object itself, but rather what it symbolizes. The social circle with which it associates the owner's identity, so to speak, much like an Andiamo purse or a Patek Philippe wristwatch. Those objects serve a clearly identifiable utility function, however that function alone is not the principal motivation behind their purchase for most owners.
The first car my wife ever bought new with her own money was a 1996 C220, so there was some sentiment there.
Anyway, constantly fixing gas-powered cars is getting tedious. I want a car that just goes, and occasionally needs new tires. And Tesla might be it. I mainly drive locally now so a battery car makes sense. Oh, and $299/month lease and $250 down for a car that does everything I need. I may just buy my 14 y/o daughter one when she's old enough to drive, simply for the safety.
Fads and trends can be extremely popular but usually have a limited shelf life once reason overcomes fantasy. Both of these companies make incredible products. Not just average performance with good aesthetics and marketing.
I am not critiquing the build quality or performance of either Tesla vehicles or Apple products.
I am simply observing that, for a great many of their customers, the purchasing decision seems to be informed more by an intangible sense of "Brand X is Good," which is to no small degree informed both by the aesthetic and visceral experience of the brand (Apple stores and products are sleek and white, Tesla stores and products are refined and futuristic) as well as the sociopolitical connotations which are associated with their ownership (people who own iThings and Tesla products are hip and "in.")
This, in my view of things, explains why the left has so easily pivoted against Tesla in recent weeks. Because to them, the value of the object is not intrinsic to the object itself, but rather what it symbolizes. The social circle with which it associates the owner's identity, so to speak, much like an Andiamo purse or a Patek Philippe wristwatch. Those objects serve a clearly identifiable utility function, however that function alone is not the principal motivation behind their purchase for most owners.
I am simply observing that, for a great many of their customers, the purchasing decision seems to be informed more by an intangible sense of "Brand X is Good," which is to no small degree informed both by the aesthetic and visceral experience of the brand (Apple stores and products are sleek and white, Tesla stores and products are refined and futuristic) as well as the sociopolitical connotations which are associated with their ownership (people who own iThings and Tesla products are hip and "in.")
This, in my view of things, explains why the left has so easily pivoted against Tesla in recent weeks. Because to them, the value of the object is not intrinsic to the object itself, but rather what it symbolizes. The social circle with which it associates the owner's identity, so to speak, much like an Andiamo purse or a Patek Philippe wristwatch. Those objects serve a clearly identifiable utility function, however that function alone is not the principal motivation behind their purchase for most owners.








