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Old 02-18-2016, 04:29 PM
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Will it fit an ultra shield?
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Originally Posted by OGRacing View Post
the kirkey rear mounts are surprisingly dirt cheap. just google search for "1.5" roll bar clamp". you'll find lots of options for attaching the plate to your bar.

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Thanks for the back brace suggestion. I was going to try and fab up something much like that but probably worse. I just bought a couple. Thanks also for all the help you've given in this thread! You may just save my life one day.
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
I've been there too.. it sucks
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
OG - that should be your signature
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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So I'm assuming you would bolt that Kirkey back brace onto the harness bar. Won't that interfere with the shoulder belts?

I'm also curious if the Kirkey mount would match the contour of an Ultrashield seat. I doesn't look like it would be that much different. I guess if I had to I could make something similar, but it would need to be made of steel instead of aluminum because I have limited skills/friends with skills.
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Originally Posted by WMP View Post
So I'm assuming you would bolt that Kirkey back brace onto the harness bar. Won't that interfere with the shoulder belts?

I'm also curious if the Kirkey mount would match the contour of an Ultrashield seat. I doesn't look like it would be that much different. I guess if I had to I could make something similar, but it would need to be made of steel instead of aluminum because I have limited skills/friends with skills.
We cannot comment. We have no experience with that application. if you wanted us to measure the brace we could do that...
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Looks like it would bolt to the package shelf or with u-bolts to the harness bar. Harnesses could go between the u-bolts or outside of them if you did it that way.
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If you use u bolts you need some way to space it off the plate. You can't wrap a harness around a bar that has a plate bolted to it.
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Use a pair of these, not u-bolts.
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Originally Posted by midpack View Post
No, u-bolts. ^That's really expensive balleur hardware.
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A slightly cheaper option- You could buy two or three cheap aluminum 2 piece shaft collars and grind down one mating surface on each one to compensate for the thickness of the bracket. Drill holes in the bracket and bolt through. I think I got mine for something like $12 each.
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Or this:

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Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Looks like it would bolt to the package shelf or with u-bolts to the harness bar. Harnesses could go between the u-bolts or outside of them if you did it that way.
Bolting it to the package shelf would probably put it at a better height in relation to the seat... I guess I'll add one of the Kirkey back braces to my cart when I order my NecksGen from OGRacing
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Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Please don't do a seatback brace like this. You'll notice the seat is secured above the shoulder harness cut-out. What will happen is that the seat will fold at the cut-out. That may seriously injure the driver's neck. It will also cause the shoulder harnesses to loosen.

You want the seat braced around shoulder level in an area where the seat is full-strength.

Oh, and don't even get me started on how the shoulder harness has been secured in this picture.
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Originally Posted by hornetball View Post
Please don't do a seatback brace like this. You'll notice the seat is secured above the shoulder harness cut-out. What will happen is that the seat will fold at the cut-out. That may seriously injure the driver's neck. It will also cause the shoulder harnesses to loosen.

You want the seat braced around shoulder level in an area where the seat is full-strength.

Oh, and don't even get me started on how the shoulder harness has been secured in this picture.
Pretty sure he was joking. This picture has made the rounds recently, everything about it is a **** show.
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Originally Posted by dasting View Post
Pretty sure he was joking. This picture has made the rounds recently, everything about it is a **** show.

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This is not a subject that should be joked about.
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Basically I've come over to the camp of "If something is a reliability problem on the track, just ask Andrew and do what he says".
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This is not a subject that should be joked about.
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