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Old 01-19-2016, 10:51 AM
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Primary goal is for the net to grab your shoulders and restrain your torso, but the top strap should give a little head protection too. I'm probably going to buy this extra tall net from Simpson to get a little more head restraint.

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Originally Posted by jpreston
Primary goal is for the net to grab your shoulders and restrain your torso, but the top strap should give a little head protection too. I'm probably going to buy this extra tall net from Simpson to get a little more head restraint.

Driver Net - Grand Am: Simpson Race Products
that net is mega huge. it's for DP cars. here this should fit a miata better. G-Force Driver Side Net
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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I want a huge center net since I'm using the Tillett from 2 pages back, with no shoulder or head wings. Thanks for the heads up though... I'll get the measurements from Simpson and see what it looks before ordering. I gotta get the car back from the cage guy first.
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http://www.ogracing.com/simpson-safety-solutions-c5r-poly-driver-net




this is the Side net that we send to most of our teams that run a GT style car (aka not a formula car. it's 28" long by 15.75" tall. Simpson bought Safety solutions a few years ago so the names are a little funny.
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Originally Posted by jpreston
Primary goal is for the net to grab your shoulders and restrain your torso, but the top strap should give a little head protection too.
right. here's a video that explains it.

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Miatacage.com. Center Window Net Mounting Tubes

Anyone used one of these? Obviously a dash bar that's built into a cage would be preferred, but this looks like it could work for those of us that are just running a roll bar.
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Originally Posted by jpreston
I want a huge center net since I'm using the Tillett from 2 pages back, with no shoulder or head wings. Thanks for the heads up though... I'll get the measurements from Simpson and see what it looks before ordering. I gotta get the car back from the cage guy first.
I would love to see your tillett seat install when you are done. I used the tillett brackets and I'm not totally happy with them (plus they were expensive).


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I was just asking for thoughts on the same mounting tubes WMP posted.
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a lot of you have concern with driving in a halo seat. but honestly, it isn't bad even on street, if you know the rear view mirror trick.

I don't know how to describe it. may be someone can post a tutorial. but basically, when properly setup. you shouldn't have any blind spot. 99% of people have their side view mirrors to far in. if you can see your car in side mirror, or/and if you can see the same car in both your center rear view mirror and side mirror, you are doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by bellwilliam
a lot of you have concern with driving in a halo seat. but honestly, it isn't bad even on street, if you know the rear view mirror trick.
That's fine for driving on the street, but it's not good enough for backing up in parking lots.

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i street drive my car with a halo seat. The head catching busters have never been a problem. i just look over them.


or you can do a sparco ergo seat.


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What about left side net without a cage?
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Originally Posted by aidandj
What about left side net without a cage?
a window net or a driver net?

window net would be kind of pointless, the idea of that is to keep your body parts inside of the cage. IMO i would rather just run arm restraints.

driver net, would be helpful to keep your head & torso in line. also help keep it in the car.
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So a driver net on both sides?
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I use a wide angle center rear view mirror that clips over the stock one. I like a wider field of view out of the back.

And with regard to seeing how to back into parking spaces, either open the door or use electric side mirrors maybe?
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Originally Posted by aidandj
So a driver net on both sides?
IMSA requires it. even with halo seats.

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I use a wide angle center rear view mirror that clips over the stock one. I like a wider field of view out of the back.

And with regard to seeing how to back into parking spaces, either open the door or use electric side mirrors maybe?
I bought a Crawford composite mirror out of a sprint car off ebay. got it for under 150 bucks, new that thing is easily over $1000.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Plan would be one of those (center net) on either side of the seat.
I would be very concerned about being able to egress quickly while inverted and on fire or having a worker able to quickly determine how to extricate my unconscious body from a nonstandard netting arrangement. It becomes more difficult when the vehicle is mangled and release points are blocked by bent structure. Window nets are attached to the cage because it is unlikely to deform and they are attached by a commonly understood release mechanism located in a common location. I would advise against using a center net on both sides for those reasons.
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Certain classes have driver nets on both sides. I don't have a cage and getting in and out is easy. The nets just unclip.
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Just thought I'd add some fuel to the fire... after the recent death in socal of Ivo... I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a Cobra Evolution Pro-fit to upgrade my Cobra Suzuka Pro.

I'm in the process of home buying now so I'm hoping I can just buy a house and go trailer only... ahh deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.
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Originally Posted by Savington
I'm going through this with my street car after the fatality at BRP last month. I have the OEM airbag, OEM 3-points, and Elise seat (OEM belts interact with the Elise seat perfectly), which is perfect on the street. For track days, I'll have a full FIA containment seat, Schroth FIA 6-points, HNRS, and a Sparco wheel.
Crossposting from my build thread.

For track days, out comes the Elise seat on stock sliders and in goes a Cobra Evolution on a PCI Universal bracket, Schroth ProfiII-6H belts, a Sparco 383, and a 2.5lb drychem extinguisher on a Blackbird Fabworx bracket. Everything is 100% reversible so I can still DD it between events without lumbering in/out of a race seat or living without an airbag on the street.

Expensive, but you only live once, and the peace of mind on-track makes it easier to focus on the task at hand.

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Originally Posted by Savington
Expensive, but you only live once, and the peace of mind on-track makes it easier to focus on the task at hand.
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