EPIC nuts/studs loosening thread (reposting stupid stuff without reading = warning)
07-21-2009, 03:21 PM
#342
I am surprised Sav hasn't jumped on this post yet. 1:26.9 is SLOW for a car like that. every turbo Miata (5) were faster at the last Miata Challenge event. a street class s2k (street tire, stock shocks, stock wheels) driven by Emilio also went faster.
I am disappointed Keith Verges has chimed in more on what he had done differently other than A286 bolts. may be a different turbo setup ?
btw. best thread I've seen in a while.
I am disappointed Keith Verges has chimed in more on what he had done differently other than A286 bolts. may be a different turbo setup ?
btw. best thread I've seen in a while.
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07-21-2009, 04:59 PM
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probably doing the power-lawyer thang. I'll try to accost him next time I see him at the track. He should definitely tell me though because once I fix it, I'm going to attend a few of his track events.
I swear to Krishna if my car isn't ready and or fails at Hallett I'm going to be the most pissed off **** on earth.
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07-21-2009, 08:17 PM
#346
Seriously though, I have no doubt the v-band is a good way to go but you're being closed minded if you think it's the only way to go. Anyways most people here aren't going to shell out multiple thousands on a v-band setup. Us little guys need a solution too.
So I talked to the tech at 034. He said they had the same problems with their setups. Both steel & copper nuts needed to be tightened after every session. These nuts didn't move.
According to 034, this method lasts way longer than any other stud/nut method:
1. Don't use a gasket on race cars. (It'll only leak a little when cold.)
2. Use resbond on the stud
3. Tighten the stud as much as possible with vice grips! (I won't do that. I'll double nut.)
4. Use resbond on their nut
5. Tighten the nut just so it's snug
He said the studs are regular maintenance items. They will eventually stretch & will need to be replaced.
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07-21-2009, 08:23 PM
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I'm going to try one more time with standard hardware, then I'm getting the checkbook out.
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07-21-2009, 09:35 PM
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i should have pulled the trigger 2 months ago, rather than getting to ******* August, limp-dicked in the end of track season. I had a boner to save money so I could buy a truck and its August and I've run one track event all year. This **** is power-gay. I would have run 4 events in the lasts 2-months if I were NA.
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07-21-2009, 11:33 PM
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I'm going to buy a couple sets of my hardware that I have now, 3 stainless steel allen bolts and one ss hex bolt. Since I only have to use a wrench with 10* possible movement on one bolt, it doesn't take too long. I'll probably have a rod welded to a cut off ball end allen wrench so I can spin them off real quick once they're loose. I think it'll be about $5 a set. Not the best solution, annoying, slightly time consuming, but better than spending $3000 on a band aid track only car that only sees 4-5 track days a year.
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07-22-2009, 02:38 PM
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According to 034, this method lasts way longer than any other stud/nut method:
1. Don't use a gasket on race cars. (It'll only leak a little when cold.)
2. Use resbond on the stud
3. Tighten the stud as much as possible with vice grips! (I won't do that. I'll double nut.)
4. Use resbond on their nut
5. Tighten the nut just so it's snug
He said the studs are regular maintenance items. They will eventually stretch & will need to be replaced.
1. Don't use a gasket on race cars. (It'll only leak a little when cold.)
2. Use resbond on the stud
3. Tighten the stud as much as possible with vice grips! (I won't do that. I'll double nut.)
4. Use resbond on their nut
5. Tighten the nut just so it's snug
He said the studs are regular maintenance items. They will eventually stretch & will need to be replaced.
Um, as to the studs, I'm not arguing, if that's what works, but you're not *supposed* to tighten studs, you are supposed to use the nut - tightening the stud means you give up the whole advantage of studs - you're effectively using up the strength of the stud so you can't tighten the nut much.
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