Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Hustler's build thread 2.0, the natural aspiration connection

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-26-2012, 06:23 PM
  #581  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
Why not just reduce spark angle instead of a restrictor plate?
Valve burn.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 06:25 PM
  #582  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

should net a gain but I highly doubt it will be as much as you think.
18psi is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 06:29 PM
  #583  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
should net a gain but I highly doubt it will be as much as you think.
I expect 5-10hp. I saw a huge change in Chris Kearns' car. Remember that I have EV1 580CC injectors now which atomize for **** and make the car barely idle. I have to err for fatness on the AFR so sometimes the car reads as fat as 11.3:1, sometimes 13.1 due to shitty spray and fuel on the walls combine with a lack of TPS enrichment.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 06:32 PM
  #584  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

sounds about right. but why the failstrictor? does another 5-10 disqualify you from your class?
18psi is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 06:36 PM
  #585  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

161whp is the absolute limit of what I can make on a Dynojet and stay in that class, I did 157whp with the Barrett Jackson tune using the conversion from the Mustang Dyno, which is what I intend to do because I have to come up with ~$1500 for 9" 6ULs and Hoosiers. 162whp means I go to TTC. However, I can run my current set-up and a max of 179hp in TTC.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 07:11 PM
  #586  
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
It will make more power now so I'm looking into getting a restrictor plate made because I assume it will make significantly more than the 157whp it dyno's previously.
Bad idea. Use your VVT control to bring down the top end power, if needed, when needed. Run the full power VVT tune other times.
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Ben is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 07:59 PM
  #587  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
karter74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 684
Total Cats: 23
Default

could you possibly use a hidden external switch for table switching? Make more/less power on the fly!
karter74 is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 08:02 PM
  #588  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

lolol@cheating tips
18psi is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 08:02 PM
  #589  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by Ben
Bad idea. Use your VVT control to bring down the top end power, if needed, when needed. Run the full power VVT tune other times.
I have a 99 head on this car, VVT head on my daily.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 08:02 PM
  #590  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by karter74
could you possibly use a hidden external switch for table switching? Make more/less power on the fly!
I'd rather lose with dignity than cheat and win.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 08:04 PM
  #591  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

throw some NOS on dat hoe
18psi is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 08:07 PM
  #592  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
throw some NOS on dat hoe
We call it "dope" now.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 09:00 PM
  #593  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
karter74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 684
Total Cats: 23
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I'd rather lose with dignity than cheat and win.
Until you find out the guys beating you are already doing something similar to gain a "competitive edge"
karter74 is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 09:42 PM
  #594  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Dignity > trophy
hustler is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 10:05 PM
  #595  
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,325
Total Cats: 2,377
Default

Originally Posted by karter74
Until you find out the guys beating you are already doing something similar to gain a "competitive edge"
That assumes you are getting beat in the first place
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
emilio700 is online now  
Old 10-26-2012, 10:13 PM
  #596  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
triple88a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 10,454
Total Cats: 1,799
Default

Different redlines? a 5k redline limited to 161hp and then a 9 or whatever k redline that you'll unlock? Too obvious? :P
triple88a is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 11:36 PM
  #597  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
That assumes you are getting beat in the first place
That would be a nice change. I'm feeling more confident than ever about my driving. Well, "I'm feeling confident about my driving for the first time."
hustler is offline  
Old 10-27-2012, 01:27 AM
This message has been deleted by hustler. Reason: hurp durp
Old 10-27-2012, 01:35 AM
This message has been deleted by hustler. Reason: Too annoying for my awesome thread.
Old 10-27-2012, 11:44 AM
  #598  
Tour de Franzia
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

I am clearly an electrical engineer:
Is there any reason not to take every accessory ground wire, ECU ground wire, coils, injectors, CKP, CMP, and LC-1 ground wires and solder them to one big ring connector attached to the EGR-port-bolt on the back of the intake plenum? This will be my 3rd rewire on this car. I want one, badass, clean harness for this car because after ~20-years, the factory harness has turned to ****. The insuraltion turns to powder when you touch it and the copper wire is black throughout.

Last edited by hustler; 10-27-2012 at 11:58 AM.
hustler is offline  
Old 10-27-2012, 11:54 AM
  #599  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I am clearly an electrical engineer:
Is there any reason not to take every accessory ground wire, ECU ground wire, and LC-1 ground wires and solder them to one big ring connector attached to the EGR-port-bolt on the back of the intake plenum? This will be my 3rd rewire on this car.
Contaminated grounds from power?

Separate ground for timing/sensors for less noise on signal?

In for answer.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 10-27-2012, 12:09 PM
  #600  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,479
Total Cats: 104
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I am clearly an electrical engineer:
Is there any reason not to take every accessory ground wire, ECU ground wire, coils, injectors, CKP, CMP, and LC-1 ground wires and solder them to one big ring connector attached to the EGR-port-bolt on the back of the intake plenum? This will be my 3rd rewire on this car. I want one, badass, clean harness for this car because after ~20-years, the factory harness has turned to ****. The insuraltion turns to powder when you touch it and the copper wire is black throughout.
1, what fae said.

B. Good luck making that monster glob solder joint and having it stay together

iii: It would be better electrically than putting each wire on its own ring terminal and putting them all on 1 stud.
Leafy is offline  


Quick Reply: Hustler's build thread 2.0, the natural aspiration connection



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:57 PM.