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Old 12-06-2012, 08:47 PM   #721
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is that just the priming pulse?
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:55 PM   #722
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is that just the priming pulse?
It appears that way but I have ~100% additional fuel in cranking PW adder and 70% in ASE. It shouldn't drop like that, it should squirt some fuel.

I'm waiting on directions to burn firmware, not sure if I can use the general MS2 files since everything is different from the standard computer.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:05 PM   #723
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wait for rev, but im sure its the same.


but it seems your MAP sensor is doing something really screwy...the nostart2 log shows you sitting at 60kPa when it's not running, then increasing to 80kPa when cranking. It's throwing your baro enrichments off, but those readings dont make sense.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:22 PM   #724
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what's mapdot doing? and consequently what's mapaccel doing?
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:30 PM   #725
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OMFG, firmware was corrupted, this bitch runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:42 PM   #726
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I have no idea what's up with the TPS noise. Should I try another throttle body or something?
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:47 PM   #727
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tb? no. tps sensor and/or wiring? yes
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:16 PM   #728
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OMFG, firmware was corrupted, this bitch runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So when do I pay you the cash for my now running car?
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:48 AM   #729
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60% leak through the rings on #4, it's toast. Calling Endyne tomorrow.
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60% leak through the rings on #4, it's toast. Calling Endyne tomorrow.
I'm curious if they'll take it on. I talked to them last year about some DSM stuff and they basically told me that they have enough K-Series Honda stuff to keep them busy and had no interest in taking my money.

Not that I blame them. I'm just saying.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:14 AM   #731
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  1. Save my money and send the engine to Endyne for a fancy $3000 engine?
  2. Keep the 11.5:1 pistons and knife-edged -8.5lb crank? ($1000 in work)
  3. buy $500 10.5:1 pistons and $400 7mm longer China-rods?
  4. buy 10.5:1 Supertechs and bullnose a stock crank?
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I'm curious if they'll take it on. I talked to them last year about some DSM stuff and they basically told me that they have enough K-Series Honda stuff to keep them busy and had no interest in taking my money.

Not that I blame them. I'm just saying.
I talked to Larry last week, he likes me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:26 AM   #733
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what is wrong with replacing rings, re-seating valves (possibly replacing too if they're really bent), freshening up whatever else and calling it a day?

why must you always take the longest most expensive approach at things then bitch and moan for months about how terrible everything is?

I mean its an n/a miata, I realize its a track car but wtf is wrong with not doing all those fancy things? like 10-15hp?

I guess I just don't get it. Maybe I just don't understand..if you wanted to build a badass f20c or k20a or anything that's not a turd like our BP, I'd understand....
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:10 AM   #734
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yeah what's so special about your crank that you can't just re-ring existing pistons?
other than it's knife-edged.


also lol @ buying a used build engine and having to rebuild it a few months later.
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  1. Save my money and send the engine to Endyne for a fancy $3000 engine?
  2. Keep the 11.5:1 pistons and knife-edged -8.5lb crank? ($1000 in work)
  3. buy $500 10.5:1 pistons and $400 7mm longer China-rods?
  4. buy 10.5:1 Supertechs and bullnose a stock crank?
remember 5 minutes ago you were going to sell it all for 3k?

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what is wrong with replacing rings, re-seating valves (possibly replacing too if they're really bent), freshening up whatever else and calling it a day?

why must you always take the longest most expensive approach at things then bitch and moan for months about how terrible everything is?

I mean its an n/a miata, I realize its a track car but wtf is wrong with not doing all those fancy things? like 10-15hp?

I guess I just don't get it. Maybe I just don't understand..if you wanted to build a badass f20c or k20a or anything that's not a turd like our BP, I'd understand....

This. If you spend more than 3 digits to get this ****** fixed, you did it horribly wrong.
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This. If you spend more than 3 digits to get this ****** fixed, you did it horribly wrong.
There could be a cracked piston.
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There could be a cracked piston.
You're using a stock bottom end, right? Throw another piston (or 4 in there if you want to get fancy) in with some new rings and have a nice day.


Trust me, i perfectly understand the want to make things fancy and complicated, and the effects of "Project Creep," but that completely defeats the purpose of this particular build ASSuming i've understood the intent of it.

You want something cheap and reliable to run at the track to maximize seat time. At what point does "$3000 built n/a BP" make sense?
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You're using a stock bottom end, right? Throw another piston (or 4 in there if you want to get fancy) in with some new rings and have a nice day.


Trust me, i perfectly understand the want to make things fancy and complicated, and the effects of "Project Creep," but that completely defeats the purpose of this particular build ASSuming i've understood the intent of it.

You want something cheap and reliable to run at the track to maximize seat time. At what point does "$3000 built n/a BP" make sense?
It is not a stock bottom end. It has 11.5:1 supertech 84mm pistons, forged rods, and a lightweight crank. It will be getting the SuperMiata Harmonic Dampner.
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It is not a stock bottom end. It has 11.5:1 supertech 84mm pistons, forged rods, and a lightweight crank. It will be getting the SuperMiata Harmonic Dampner.
Oh, my mistake and apologies.


I swear i saw another set of those pistons around for $200. I'll try to find them.

Any particular reason to not just put a stock 10:1 bottom end in that thing to get your cheap seat time IF the piston ends up being bad and it's not just rings?
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