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Old 12-07-2012, 11:55 AM   #741
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Right now I'm thinking I'll keep the crank, get "street" oil pump and gears, Supermiata damper, same pistons, the spare head (from the turbo car) with SS intake and exhaust valves, with the MSM cam. Should be right under $2000 if one of the pistons is not cracked and it was a bad hone job.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:04 PM   #742
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Oh, my mistake and apologies.


I swear i saw another set of those pistons around for $200. I'll try to find them.

Any particular reason to not just put a stock 10:1 bottom end in that thing to get your cheap seat time IF the piston ends up being bad and it's not just rings?
Would need rods, hone, new pistons.
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Would need rods, hone, new pistons.
I'm talking a whole bottom end and then maybe add the damper. But if you want fancy things, you want fancy things.
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whats wrong with replacing just the rings with a hone? and if a piston really is cracked, replacing those too? why do the rods/crank/etc need to be replaced also?
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you're trying to talk sense into a man with 3 alpinestars hats
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:57 PM   #746
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whats wrong with replacing just the rings with a hone? and if a piston really is cracked, replacing those too? why do the rods/crank/etc need to be replaced also?
Hustler was talking about if he went with a 01+ bottom end instead of fixing his current built NA bottom end.

I am guessing his replacement parts list right now looks like:
Rings
Bearings
BE Oil Pump
SM Damper
Gaskets

Then he has cost of honing and machine shop putting the bottom end back together.
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rings 100
bearings like 50
oil pump 300
no idea why he needs an se damper
gaskets like 200
hone like 100 not more
assembly? DO IT YOURSELF YOU GIANT *****

I still don't get it
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:03 PM   #748
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but I think I'm starting to get it.

just like I said before, he likes to overcomplicate things, make it rain on everyone, then cry on the internet

I say this with love
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:31 PM   #749
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rings 100
bearings like 50
oil pump 300
no idea why he needs an se damper
gaskets like 200
hone like 100 not more
assembly? DO IT YOURSELF YOU GIANT *****

I still don't get it
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but I think I'm starting to get it.

just like I said before, he likes to overcomplicate things, make it rain on everyone, then cry on the internet

I say this with love
ACL Race bearings are more around $100. The Damper is for added protection on top of the oil pump. The crank in the car currently was lightened 8.5lbs so Hustler does have an actual fear of it flexing and breaking.

Hustler has never assembled a bottom end so doing it yourself can be a bit daunting. So for him he wants to pay for make sure it is done correctly, especially in a car that he plans on heavily tracking.

At the end of the day yes he has been over complicating things, but a plan of action is slowly coming together.
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Youre welcome bro.
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  1. Save my money and send the engine to Endyne for a fancy $3000 engine?
  2. Keep the 11.5:1 pistons and knife-edged -8.5lb crank? ($1000 in work)
  3. buy $500 10.5:1 pistons and $400 7mm longer China-rods?
  4. buy 10.5:1 Supertechs and bullnose a stock crank?
Hey Trey-Flora, quit throwing money at it. Ring and bearing it and be done.
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  1. Save my money and send the engine to Endyne for a fancy $3000 engine?
  2. Keep the 11.5:1 pistons and knife-edged -8.5lb crank? ($1000 in work)
  3. buy $500 10.5:1 pistons and $400 7mm longer China-rods?
  4. buy 10.5:1 Supertechs and bullnose a stock crank?
Let me add to your list.

5. Find out what's wrong with it first.
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6. Sell car to lars.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:06 PM   #755
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6. Sell car to lars.
tried that. all talk.
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Another suggestion for a naturally aspirated engine...
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:56 AM   #757
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6. Sell car to lars.
I agree, I have the money ready. I just need the OK to paypal it to him.
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Doesn't The Old One (TOO aka Larry) have the shittiest turn around time? Or has he changed his ways? I need some Bumpstix, neegua.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:03 AM   #759
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Youre welcome bro.
Thanks, from a red stater to a blue stater.
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Hustler has never assembled a bottom end so doing it yourself can be a bit daunting. So for him he wants to pay for make sure it is done correctly, especially in a car that he plans on heavily tracking.
Also, if you go slow and methodically, this is not as hard as it sounds. The bottom end is honestly just crank and pistons. I'm guessing you've installed a rear main seal, timed an engine, installed a valve cover, swapped head gaskets, changed a water pump? Once the crank and pistons are installed that's all that's essentially left.
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